Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Okay some Kimkins stuff...

I actually have another rant coming on my thoughts on the kimkins diet which I will post soon but in the meantime you can get a fair idea here: Kimkins. I was just reading Jimmy's 30 in 30 blog and just had to post a quickie.

I want to state this is nothing personal, this is purely based on some comments I read. I just hate the thought of misinformation particularly when it will cost someone their hard earned money and health. I am posting this here simply because this is my blog and I can say what I want to.... (sounds like a song I know!)

Okay firstly, I want to say if you see someone promoting Kimkins on their blog or their website, remember they get paid to do this, I read somewhere the other day that people are getting 20 or 25% just from referrals or something similar. Hence, there will always be an obvious bias...

Now we all know Jimmy has been promoting Kimkins for some time, to be honest I have never been a big fan of this simply because I think a lot of people idolise him and trust him and it contradicts the message I thought he was trying to get across on such topics as fats and yo-yo, crash dieting but that is not what this post is about, I am just being upfront. I will get into those things that concern me about Kimkins in another post.

What I want to get into in this current post is some comments I have read by him.

The main difference between Atkins and Kimkins is fat. On Kimkins, you reduce the fat slightly as a means for reducing caloric intake.

But I'm not eating that much less fat now than I was during my weight loss days on Atkins. The only difference is I'm counting fiber and sugar alcohols in my carb counts on Kimkins.

Is he serious, reduce the fat slightly???

He is doing kimmers experiment now which is basically just lean meat and egg, that's seriously all he ate when he lost all his weight before, no lashings of butter, fatty meat, chicken skin and the like, no salad or veggies?

Kimmers experiment is not like Atkins induction!

Next is this comment to someone mentioning the calorie limit of 600 calories:

I'm afraid you have fallen for the rumors and innuendo that have been spread about Kimkins on forums and web sites that would just assume the plan go away. I've looked at all of the Kimkins plans and NONE of them call for only 600 calories in a day.


The calorie restrictions that are placed on a couple of the plans are designed to speed up weight loss and then higher numbers are allowed once you reach your weight loss goal.

All of them are above the 1200-calorie level, again unlike what you may have "heard" about Kimkins.

Is this for real? Has Kimmer changed her plans somewhat in the last few days or is there something awfully misleading about this comment? Am I and many others that have talked about this on various forums and the like, now liars and just plain stupid and blind because we comment on things we have read straight out of the horses mouth (Kimmer as well as her followers) so to speak.

Okay lets look at her plans which are very well known, they are posted everywhere particularly on the low carb friends forum. I have asked people who do Kimkins if this is true and they say it is. I have no idea what the vegetarian one is other then the calorie limit but I know about the other four.

First you have Kimmers experiment where you eat lean meat and egg and minimal condiment and spices used sparingly. You are not allowed any fat or fatty meats, dairy etc, just the lean meat and eggs. Yes it isn't limited but how much can you eat and for how long?

Next is her plan where she adds minimal fat to make your menu work and minimal veggies.

Okay so far not too bad you think as there are no calorie limits, but how much meat do you think you can eat? The veggies will bring bugger all calories as you are counting fibre, so will the fat considering there's bugger all so all it leaves is meat. To reach 1200 calories you would have to eat just over 600g of lean grilled rump steak or just over 700g of grilled skinless chicken breast. Okay some of you might be able to put that away but how many of you will especially if you are deep in ketosis from such little carbs...?

But hey lets pretend they are 1200 calories as we still have 3 more to go...

The next one is boot camp which anyone who has read up on kimkins via the low carb forums are familiar with. This one is the worst, it is 500ish calories and a required minimal 30 minutes of daily cardio *eek*

With these 500 calories, protein is limited to something like 70-90g a day.

Some specifics of the boot camp from the LCF forum and I will add the calories and protein that I worked out in bold:

Boot Camp 'Mess Hall"
Bare Bones Menu

Up to 2 eggs (cooked without fat) * 2 large poached eggs = 161 cal, 13.8g protein
Up to 1/2 cup List 2 veggies
Up to 2 oz lean ham or other lean protein (raw/cured weight) * lean leg ham = 61 cal, 10.8g protein
Unlimited non-calorie beverage

Up to 4 oz lean protein (raw weight) * raw chicken breast no skin or bones = 125 cal, 25.6g protein
Up to 2 cups mixed greens + Wishbone Spritzer dressing (or caloric equivalent)
Unlimited non-calorie beverage

Up to 4 oz lean protein (raw weight) * raw lean rump steak = 133 cal, 26.7 protein
Up to 2 cups mixed greens + Wishbone Spritzer dressing (or caloric equivalent)
Unlimited non-calorie beverage

Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements

2 cups of salad is 1 large handful.
If Wishbone Spritzer is not available, a small amount of other 'light' dressing may be used sparingly.
Diet drinks with zero or nearly zero carbs and calories are permitted.
Low-carb protein shakes (1-4 total carbs each) may be used as lean protein/meal replacements.
Stallone-type low-carb protein 'puddings' (1-4 total carbs) may be used as lean protein/meal replacements.
Sugar-free gelatin is allowed in moderation, no more than 1 cup per day.
Those who wish may skip the salads and vegetables. Do not add anything extra to make up for it.
Now lets add those up, the meat and egg equal 480 calories and 76.9g of protein *eek*

Then you have her protein shake one which is limited at 800 calories with up to 80 grams protein per day.

Or her vegetarian one which is up to 1000 calories a day.

How do they pan out to not being under 1200 calories? Can someone tell me what I am missing here?

Now as I said this isn't a personal attack, I just think people should know the facts.

Other Kimkins articles by me:

Nov 16: Kimkins Diet Scam
Sept 22: The Low Fat side of the Kimkins Diet: Rabbit Starvation, Sudden Death and Resting Metabolism.
Sept 11: The Low Fat side of the Kimkins Diet: Gallstones.
Aug 17: My reply to Deni
Aug 13: The low fat side of the Kimkins Diet, Part 1
July 18: Is Kimkins okay simply because it is low carb?
July 15: Kimkins and Kimmer
June 13: Okay Some Kimkins Stuff...

Friday, June 08, 2007

Mentally Winning or Mentally Losing the Game


I was reading a post on another blog just now and really enjoyed it so I wanted to share :)

Mentally Winning or Mentally Losing the Game


Tuesday, June 05, 2007

New blog I found and upgraded template


Hey I found a new blog today, this is actually a lady whom belongs to our low carb community we have on my website named Prothvar, but she never told anyone she had a blog. It wasn't until I noticed it in my webstats as someone followed a link to my site from there that I realised.

Anyway, I always thought she was pretty funny from getting to know her on the forum but her writing style in her blog is even funnier :)

I love her sense of humour, check it out!

Psychic Rations

Also wanted to mention that I upgraded my template, I am still fiddling with it so if anything looks odd or missing please feel free to let me know!


Friday, June 01, 2007

Low-carb diets have higher death rates


I was just reading this article from New Zealand, this post isn't about the topic per se, so if your concerned, Regina covered it nicely here.

What this post is about however is a couple of quotes in the article that were so moronic they made me laugh so I thought I'd share :)

Heres the first one which I think is a real gem:

Dietetic Association president Jan Milne said people who cut carbohydrates out of their diets missed out on an important source of nutrients, including B vitamins and iron.

"If a parent goes on a low-carb diet, the rest of the family sometimes ends up on it by default,"she said.

"This is particularly dangerous for children, who typically get a lot of their iron from bread."

Now I am sure I do not need to explain the stupidity of that comment, I mean if anything it is the other way around...

Heres another, just as stupid:

Mrs Milne said many foods marketed as "low carb" or "low fat" actually contained large amounts of sugar, which was "incredibly dishonest".

Low fat, YES... but low carb products containing large amounts of sugar *laugh*